Episode 150- Must you be taking part in a by no means ending sport along with your horse?



On this podcast, I focus on the distinction between ‘finite video games’ which contain gamers, guidelines and winners and infinite, or by no means ending video games, the place the purpose is to maintain taking part in as a result of the journey is all there may be.I share examples of this within the horse world and in on a regular basis life. Then I shut by telling you the way I can simply determine which I’m taking part in…so you may strive it too.
Stacy Westfall: Hello, I’m Stacy Westfall, and I’m right here to show you perceive, take pleasure in, and efficiently prepare your personal horses. On this season of the podcast, I’ve been speaking about among the widespread challenges that I see when educating riders. Right now, I’m going to be speaking in regards to the unending sport, what it’s, and some recommendations on figuring out in case you are taking part in one. That is episode 150 of the podcast, which is the right time to speak in regards to the unending sport. I started this podcast in December of 2018, and generally when folks hear how lengthy I’ve been podcasting for or what number of episodes they are saying one thing about operating out of issues to speak about. And I believe it’s actually fascinating as a result of years in the past I had a weblog that I wrote every day for nicely over a yr. And once I began publishing this podcast, I had really damaged over the thousand weblog put up quantity earlier than I even obtained to the podcast, which additionally will get posted on my weblog. And it was fascinating as a result of after publishing a thousand weblog posts, folks, as I used to be going via that journey, they might say type of the identical factor about like operating out of issues to speak about. And that’s why I needed to document this podcast as a result of I believe there’s a concept right here that’s useful in our horsemanship. I believe this podcast, and the weblog earlier than it, I believe they’re examples of taking part in a unending sport.
Stacy Westfall: Now, the primary time I heard this idea was years in the past once I was studying Seth Godin’s weblog, and he had written about there being finite video games and the quickest method to think about a type of is conventional sports activities. So you might have two sports activities groups, one wins, one loses. It’s a finite sport and infinite video games the place the objective of an infinite sport is sustained interplay. So an instance of a–of an infinite sport is perhaps tossing a ball with a younger baby. So should you consider a really small baby if you play, you don’t play to win. You don’t throw a fastball on the little tiny baby that you just’re making an attempt to show to toss the ball. It’s an infinite sport. I really wish to go forward and skim you a bit of this weblog. It’s just about nearly the entire thing as a result of his blogs are very quick and I’ll hyperlink to it within the present notes. And it’s fascinating as a result of Seth Godin, who I’m referencing within the concept of the infinite and finite video games, he’s saying that he heard of it from somebody named James Carse. So apparently you would chase this idea again via fairly just a few locations. However right here I’m going to learn from the weblog that I bear in mind: In finite video games, quick and lengthy, there are gamers, there are guidelines, and there are winners. The sport is designed to finish and it’s based mostly on shortage. Within the infinite sport, although, one thing fully completely different is happening. Within the infinite sport, the purpose is to maintain taking part in, to not win. Within the infinite sport, the journey is all there may be. And so the gamers in an infinite sport by no means cease giving to allow them to take. Gamers on this sport, throw a slower pitch so the batter can hit it as a result of a no-hitter shutout has no actual upside. A superb mother, in fact, all the time performs the infinite sport, nevertheless it seems that it’s attainable to construct a company or perhaps a nation that does this as nicely. Construct hospitals and colleges as an alternative of forts and barricades. You definitely know individuals who play this sport, you might have nicely been touched by a few of them, impressed by them, and taught by them. The unsuitable query to ask is, however how do they win? The fitting option to perceive it’s, however is it price taking part in?
Stacy Westfall: That’s the weblog that first obtained me fascinated about this concept of finite and infinite video games. And so once I say the unending sport, I’m simply utilizing my very own phrases for the infinite one. And to me, what I do with horses seems like a unending sport to me. In my interactions with them, I’m pondering of even as we speak, I train them, and within the means of educating them, I’m additionally finding out them so I can be taught extra about them. So I’m continuously finding out, studying, educating with the horse, and that may occur with a number of horses as a result of I’ve a number of of my very own horses to review after which I get to work with different folks’s horses once they carry them for clinics and again within the day once I would take them for coaching. However I may also examine this and do that with only one single horse. So even in my thoughts as we speak is like I took my mini primary as a result of sure, now there are two. So I took Mini Mocha and took him to a harness store to have him fitted for a harness. And it was actually fascinating, simply the entire expertise as a result of I’ve been coaching him on behave. However I’m taking him to this new place and I’m additionally watching him as he’s being fitted. And since I don’t have a harness or a bridle or any of that stuff that will match him it implies that as he’s being fitted, it’s additionally his first expertise with having a bit headstall and a bit in his mouth and all these various things. And so it’s a very fascinating factor the place it’s type of like this shared expertise but I’m the one which’s in cost and I’m directing him. However I’m additionally open and studying and watching and listening. And so it’s very fascinating as a result of if in case you have this view of this unending sport, I believe it modifications a number of the ways in which you work together as a result of I discover this sport taking part in out in–in–with my horses, however I additionally discover it taking part in out in a number of different relationships in my life and in every kind of the way. And what occurs is it modifications time frames. It modifications my view on outcomes. It modifications my view on, you understand, when issues go nicely or don’t go nicely, what–like–it modifications these labels if you begin fascinated about it as a unending sport. Now I wish to take it into one thing tremendous particular so that you guys can actually see it. And I really suppose that the–the finite half, so let’s return to that sports activities concept. I believe that finite sports-type analogy is definitely what lots of people who’re in horses however actually negatively react to the thought of exhibiting. I ponder generally in the event that they’re not negatively reacting to that finite a part of competitors. So once I take a look at individuals who don’t like or respect, you understand, folks which might be exhibiting horses, there’s there could be a number of judgments on–on horse exhibits and folks exhibiting horses. And I believe it’s as a result of folks robotically assume that if an individual goes to play this finite sport, there’s a winner, there’s a loser, that this sport is then going to regulate how anyone who performs it behaves, and that’s simply not true. That’s a false assumption. So what which means is that should you’ve ever learn an article the place a horse was, you understand, handled unfairly at a horse present, it is usually unfair to then suppose that every one people who present horses deal with horses unfairly as a result of one individual did. However you may see the place the finite nature, the win-lose nature of going to a horse present, I can see the place somebody on the skin may say that’s going to be an issue as a result of you may see the place the chance for the issue is there. However what’s so fascinating about it’s I’ve really been on each side of this fence earlier than. I grew up as a child who preferred exhibiting and simply thought it was a good time to hang around with different people who cherished horses and see every kind of horses and all these things. And I bear in mind being uncovered to the–the aspect of exhibiting that–that’s the unfavorable aspect. I bear in mind seeing horses that I believe have been ridden too onerous or no matter that was that I’m viewing is unfavorable. And I bear in mind being skewed by that. And now I’m on the opposite aspect of that to the place I completely, completely know that I can go to a present and I’m 100% in charge of what I do once I’m there. And it’s not like I am going to a present after which out of the blue really feel like I’m obligated to do a sure factor to my horse. No, I’m 100% accountable for my expertise and what I’m keen to do or not do. Apparently sufficient, that’s really a bit of how the bareback bridleless was in a position to occur was as a result of, like I used to be stretching all of the boundaries and guidelines that have been attainable once I was getting into there. I wasn’t simply assuming I needed to do a sure factor the best way it needed to be completed. I used to be like making an attempt to work–I used to be working inside the guidelines, however even like urgent on the perimeters of the principles. Within the trip that I did earlier than the bareback bridleless, should you guys ever noticed the one, it’s the Ghost Riders within the sky with Can Can Lena, I really needed to go get a permission or needed to declare that I used to be going to carry the saddle horn as a result of that’s really a penalty should you contact the saddle. I used to be all the time pushing on the perimeters of what was there as a result of I knew I used to be finally taking part in my very own sport. Do you see how that works?
Stacy Westfall: Okay, let’s go to a unique topic for a minute, and let’s–let’s see if this helps. The fascinating factor about taking a look at one thing like a horse present and seeing that this could develop into a finite win-lose scenario. The fascinating factor about it’s that I can really see people who find themselves working with their very own horses at dwelling, that they will start taking part in a finite sport additionally. A finite sport, it isn’t decided by whether or not you go to a horse present or not. Trailer loading could be a finite sport. So it’s fascinating as a result of what I’m saying right here is that should you go to load the horse within the trailer and also you–have you ever ever heard any person say, I couldn’t cease there as a result of I couldn’t let him win? That could be a phrase that’s completely cluing you in that they’re taking part in a finite type of a sport. They’re saying there’s going to be a winner right here and there’s going to be a loser right here, and I don’t wish to be the loser. I don’t need the horse to be the winner and possibly the loser. So there’s a–they’re robotically saying that they’re taking part in a finite sport. What’s so fascinating is which you can play any of those as infinite video games. And the irony of that in trailer loading just isn’t misplaced on me. So, however if you take a look at one thing as an infinite sport, if you take a look at it like that, then what which means is that it’s not about like on the horse present. It’s not about profitable or shedding, it’s about the way you play the sport within the trailer loading. It’s not about whether or not the horse will get on the trailer or not. It’s about how you might have the dialog. So in all of this, that is nonetheless these reflections of this infinite or finite, relying on which one–which one you’re doing. Are you taking part in the unending sport? And for my part of the unending sport, that implies that once we go to the trailer to load the horse, whether or not it’s the primary time we’ve ever tried trailer loading this horse or whether or not this can be a identified downside with this horse. If we go to the trailer as simply one other place to be taught, one other place to discover, one other place to speak extra, if there’s an openness to this interplay, then that’s proof that we’re taking part in this unending sport. What’s so fascinating is that it doesn’t imply that we don’t care about whether or not we get the horse on the trailer or not. What it means is that we care extra about understanding the journey than we do about getting them on the trailer. If you happen to flip that round in a finite sport, you care extra about getting them on the trailer than you do about understanding their journey. I might suggest simply as many finite win-lose video games are performed at dwelling as they’re at a horse present as a result of on the finish of the day, what I need you to see is that it’s the mindset of the way you’re approaching this, whether or not it’s a–whether or not it’s a finite win-lose scenario or whether or not it’s this unending sport.
Stacy Westfall: I’ve been fascinated about this matter for some time now, so it’s fascinating that I’ve been noticing all the opposite locations the place I can really feel myself taking part in an infinite sport. I believed it was actually fascinating once I recognized it with my very own youngsters. So I’ve three boys which might be all adults now. And I bear in mind it obtained me fascinated about it once I was round them the opposite day. I used to be pondering once I was a toddler and my mother and father have been parenting me I bear in mind I simply–I simply bear in mind imagining that like parenting ended when the youngsters have been adults and so they moved out. But it surely’s actually fascinating. So in my baby thoughts, the parenting was a finite sport. It was completed at no matter age my mind had in thoughts, let’s simply say 18. However now, as I’m a mother or father of grownup children, I noticed that issues do shift and so they change for certain. My–my relationship with my children has modified all the best way up via from the time, you understand, once they have been toddlers, so the kids, to adults. It retains shifting. But it surely’s actually fascinating as a result of though it shifts, I now notice I used to be unsuitable once I was a toddler and I believed that parenting was a finite sport, that it was completed at a sure level as a result of it’s not. Like I’m realizing now that parenting is a unending sport. I believe it’s a very cool idea. The sentence that I learn to you earlier when Seth Godin mentioned, “gamers in an infinite sport by no means cease giving to allow them to take.” It’s this fixed cycle, this circle, and I simply–I simply love that concept that that is an infinite sport. And that’s what this has been like for me with readers of my weblog and with listeners to the podcast such as you. It feels infinite for just a few causes. One is that I’m all the time altering. I’m desirous to proceed my studying all the best way till I die, and I’m all the time having new experiences. In order I’ve these new experiences and I share them with you and also you write again and also you share your experiences it seems like this cycle. And once I consider it–so I’ve been doing the podcast now for 150 episodes since 2018. However once I look again, I’ve modified mediums through the years. I used to do dwell occasions and that was how I might train. After which I did blogs and movies and podcasts and Zoom calls. However what’s fascinating is I’m nonetheless taking part in the identical unending sport. I simply occurred to be reaching out utilizing completely different mediums. It’s for me this fixed cycle of studying and educating and studying and sharing, and it simply retains going. So what I’d prefer to recommend to you is that as you undergo this subsequent week, strive figuring out locations the place you might have a unending sport going and locations the place you might have a finite sport going. I’ll offer you one tip on how I can inform which of those video games I’m taking part in. Once I’m taking part in a finite sport that has a win-lose, I usually really feel some model of shortage and once I’m taking part in an infinite sport, the unending sport, I usually really feel very considerable. Thanks for taking part in this unending sport with me, and I’ll discuss to you once more within the subsequent episode.

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